1. Zot vs. Nomad
?tbc
To-Do:
- Ask Mike about benefits of Nomand over Zot
2 Facilitate a project support team / increase the project team
How can we expand the dev team?
Which other functions would be supportive? Documentation of use / administration / code, P.R.., concept development, infrastructure (more public hubs, etc.).
We agreed to create a Hubzilla group as a base for this group and ~monthly Video calls to keep the collaboration dynamic and grow together by getting to know each other better. For better compatibility we will try a Matrix channel with Video call, supported by a turnserver. Fallback is Mark's company's Zoom instance (hosted in Europe, so GDPR(EU)-respecting in spite of Zoom.)
To-dos:
- Create Hubzilla group channel for supporting the project on hub.hubzilla.de (Witcraft)
- Create Matrix channel (Witcraft)
- meeting minutes (Emanual + all)
3 Zotlabs Website
Is the domain name Zotlabs still relevant?
As all other Zot-ware except Hubzilla were more or less a playground to develop (streams) and were announced to be End-of-Life by 2023-01-01, the "brand" Zotlabs makes little sense for the future. Zolabs (2023) = Hubzilla.
Can the website be relaunched?
Witcraft had created a rough draft of a new website and had discussed implementation with HeartPhoenix. RockyIII, and Emanuel were asked to join, and Emanuel created a new website based on this, with generous funding for graphics from a professional designer. RockyIII and Emanuel pursued this draft and demonstrated it in the meeting. It was welcomed and positively received, so it would be could to go for a relaunch.
However, there are some questions left regarding the domain and the existing webiste. There can only be clarified with HeartPhoenix as the domain owner (See nect agenda point).
4 Security Concept for Administration of Critical Infrastructure
How can we make sure that critical domains, websites, "official" support channels, etc. can be maintained independent of indivual availability?
netzgemeinde.eu and hub.hubzilla.de are set up with multiple admins (including root access to the unterlying VPS). This is a model for other infrastructure. We should ask the owner of zotum (owner of the Support channel, apparently not running smoothly) if the Support channel can be moved or cloned to another server with better fallback solutions (hub.hubzilla.de). Actually, he already had made this offer himself, but it was not pursued further.
The website (and eventually the domain) hubzilla.org could also be hosted on the VPS behind hub.hubzilla.de (as a separate instance). It could be run on a separate hub - But to reduce the barrier for website contributers, it should actually not be done using Hubzilla: Responsive design and CSS takes advanced webdesigning skills that would be a barrier for possible contributors, and Code execution must be allowed (except for very simple looking pages in the standard Hubzilla design).
Current admins of hub.hubzilla.de:
Mark Nowiasz
Marcus Wissmann
Heart Phoronix
Hilmar Runge
To-do (Mark):
- clarify with heartphoenix:
-- if the website can be re-launched, and eventually what elements should be kept
-- if it should be hosted on the VPS behind hub.hubzilla.de
-- if we can use the domain hubzilla.org for that, and how to ensure access to it in case of emergencies.[/share]
?tbc
To-Do:
- Ask Mike about benefits of Nomand over Zot
2 Facilitate a project support team / increase the project team
How can we expand the dev team?
Which other functions would be supportive? Documentation of use / administration / code, P.R.., concept development, infrastructure (more public hubs, etc.).
We agreed to create a Hubzilla group as a base for this group and ~monthly Video calls to keep the collaboration dynamic and grow together by getting to know each other better. For better compatibility we will try a Matrix channel with Video call, supported by a turnserver. Fallback is Mark's company's Zoom instance (hosted in Europe, so GDPR(EU)-respecting in spite of Zoom.)
To-dos:
- Create Hubzilla group channel for supporting the project on hub.hubzilla.de (Witcraft)
- Create Matrix channel (Witcraft)
- meeting minutes (Emanual + all)
3 Zotlabs Website
Is the domain name Zotlabs still relevant?
As all other Zot-ware except Hubzilla were more or less a playground to develop (streams) and were announced to be End-of-Life by 2023-01-01, the "brand" Zotlabs makes little sense for the future. Zolabs (2023) = Hubzilla.
Can the website be relaunched?
Witcraft had created a rough draft of a new website and had discussed implementation with HeartPhoenix. RockyIII, and Emanuel were asked to join, and Emanuel created a new website based on this, with generous funding for graphics from a professional designer. RockyIII and Emanuel pursued this draft and demonstrated it in the meeting. It was welcomed and positively received, so it would be could to go for a relaunch.
However, there are some questions left regarding the domain and the existing webiste. There can only be clarified with HeartPhoenix as the domain owner (See nect agenda point).
4 Security Concept for Administration of Critical Infrastructure
How can we make sure that critical domains, websites, "official" support channels, etc. can be maintained independent of indivual availability?
netzgemeinde.eu and hub.hubzilla.de are set up with multiple admins (including root access to the unterlying VPS). This is a model for other infrastructure. We should ask the owner of zotum (owner of the Support channel, apparently not running smoothly) if the Support channel can be moved or cloned to another server with better fallback solutions (hub.hubzilla.de). Actually, he already had made this offer himself, but it was not pursued further.
The website (and eventually the domain) hubzilla.org could also be hosted on the VPS behind hub.hubzilla.de (as a separate instance). It could be run on a separate hub - But to reduce the barrier for website contributers, it should actually not be done using Hubzilla: Responsive design and CSS takes advanced webdesigning skills that would be a barrier for possible contributors, and Code execution must be allowed (except for very simple looking pages in the standard Hubzilla design).
Current admins of hub.hubzilla.de:
Mark Nowiasz
Marcus Wissmann
Heart Phoronix
Hilmar Runge
To-do (Mark):
- clarify with heartphoenix:
-- if the website can be re-launched, and eventually what elements should be kept
-- if it should be hosted on the VPS behind hub.hubzilla.de
-- if we can use the domain hubzilla.org for that, and how to ensure access to it in case of emergencies.[/share]