About Bucha

Wed, 13 Apr 2022 10:34:43 +0200

kuchinster@hub.hubzilla.de

"But we also have Bucha town council member Elena Ukrainsteva warning residents to stay inside because Azov battalion was going to cleanse the town of Russian influences at least a day ahead of the reported mass killings. Also spreading across social media is Ukrainian commander “Boatswain” being asked by a soldier if he can shoot someone that isn’t wearing a blue armband. Boatswain’s answer, “shoot the bitch.”

In a warzone, white flags are a signal of surrender. White armbands signify a non-combatant that they are no danger to you. The victims in the images provided by Ukraine are not wearing blue armbands. Even more compelling are the mass murder images from Ukrainian sources showing people with Russian army meal packages which were given as humanitarian aid to Bucha residents.

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Looking at these images critically, do militaries committing war crimes give out humanitarian aid packages first?

Anton Gerashchenko, pictured below in Bucha, is an adviser to the President of Ukraine. On his social networks called for reprisals against civilians who collaborated across Ukraine with the Russian military.

It is necessary to find and punish all those who interacted with the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, he writes. Gerashchenko called on residents to inform on the “guilty.”

Gerashchenko included taking food packages and white armbands as interaction.

Let’s argue it’s normal to shoot civilians proclaiming neutral nonviolent statuses with white armbands. Would shooters committing war crimes leave evidence of their presence showing they enticed residents with food just to murder them directly after? Or does it make more sense to start from the perspective that accepting food from Russian soldiers was criminal enough to warrant mass shootings?

Azov battalion was there. With no mass casualties reported by the mayor for the first 3 days following liberation, the initial evidence points to a Ukrainian cause. If an investigation is mounted, it’s one that needs careful monitoring from the international community.

This is a first blush look at Bucha ( https://georgeeliason.substack.com/p/bucha-proof-of-a-ukrainian-pogrom). The evidence is from Ukrainian sources. If this holds up and I have no reason to think it won’t, where does this leave the international community supporting Ukraine? More importantly, where does this leave Ukrainian citizens?

This leads me to what some Ukrainians are saying about it. Some are voicing fear of what will happen when the Russian army leaves and the nationalists return. We may be seeing that end result in Bucha. Let’s be clear, they’re not talking about support for Russia or Ukraine, just the return of the nationalists.

One Ukrainian mayor surrendered his town (Kupyansk - my note) to Russia without a fight so the city would be spared and civilians remain unharmed. There was no military or military equipment to work with.

The SBU kidnapped his daughter in Lviv and called him a traitor to Ukraine. Is this normal?"

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/04/12/report-from-march-moscow-policy-conference-ukraine-denazification-and-z/
#ukraine #psyop #bucha #Azov #ukrainian #murders #Gerashchenko #SBU

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Sat, 03 Sep 2022 17:58:43 +0200

kuchinster

kuchinster@hub.hubzilla.de

Same with additional information in comments: https://diasp.org/posts/db40e3f09d49013ab1fb28a1592b385a